Форум: AKROSS CON 2011
Тема: [2011] TritioAFB - The Voice of a Kawaii Genera...
автор: EvilSpider

сообщение оставил EvilSpider , 29 октября 2011, 18:31
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Название: The Voice of a Kawaii Generation
Видео: Sora no Manimani, K-On!!
Музыка: DJ Rgie Gatmaitan - K-ONye WeXXt
Жанр: Character Profile, Story, Romance

Видео-кодек: H.264 / H.264
Аудио-кодек: aac / aac
Разрешение: 848x480 / 480x270
Размер: 35,3 мб. / 5,94 мб.
Продолжительность: 3:00

Комментарий: "Welcome to this interesting amv. Now, if you're wondering about the peculiar name of this song: The name comes from a mix between Kanye West and K-on! don't ask me why it's named like that, it's thanks to Dj Regie ;) Songs appearing: Kanye West - Diamonds from Sierra Leone Ho-kago Tea Time - Listen!! Jurassic 5 - W.O.E. Is Me (World of Entertainment) Jay-Z ft. Alicia Keys - Empire State of Mind You didn't expect this right? :P Never expected Mio singing like this. Now about the video: It's been a long way to finish this video. I was considering to leave uncompleted this proyect but nah, it's not fun that way. You don't have to watch both animes to understand what's the concept. Friendship and Love mixes into a story that begins from the childhood to the present. 2 different universes that combines into one, into The Voice of a Kawaii Generation. Special thanks to my betatesters: AimoAio, ibabrak, Hlebalolomator, Kuruta, Chained(E)Studio and the rest of people that gave me an opinion to the betas of this video. Y para mis amigos de la ZA: Este es el proyecto que comentaba el otro dia, que les parece? No se lo imaginaban verdad? jajajajaja"


сообщение оставил AnimeFanaticBoy , 29 октября 2011, 18:47
I&#180;ll reply to your comments later, I&#180;ll be participating twice in the Con  :wink:

RatKiller, if you&#180;re reading this, there are some questions I have to make. They&#180;re about masking cause I got some interesting facts during the making of this video

And... yes I know, this may be a weird song for several of you, but this is better than making a Naruto plus Three Days Grace video  :laugh:

сообщение оставил KenjiKyou , 29 октября 2011, 22:15
Немножко проблювался от выбора музыки. Не, к концу стало получше, но начало это кошмар. И связь с видео могла бы быть покрепче. Если не обращать внимание на музыку, то вроде там что-то интересное проклёвывается, но я больше не буду это смотреть.
сообщение оставил Squalleh , 29 октября 2011, 22:25
The song.. Oh God the song.. kill it with fire. How? HOW!? HOW can you mix K-ON, Kanye West and THE XX? No, more importantly - why?
Ironically, the video would be a lot better if author would choose one of the songs and made a video. For the selected genre THE XX - Intro would be absolutely amazing. But you just went and chose.. THAT.
Anyway, the music literally massacres the entire video. Because of the un-mixable content, the mood of the piece is constantly jumping around and not demonstrating a clear picture of what exactly is happening or how we supposed to feel about it.

And why the video is already on Youtube? If I recall correctly, you can't upload it until the contest ends.



сообщение оставил AnimeFanaticBoy , 30 октября 2011, 00:28
Squall© you should ask that to Dj Regie, not me  :biggrin:

Цитата
the video would be a lot better if author would choose one of the songs and made a video


Are you sure about that? If my intention were to made anotherkind of video, then I would agree but since the lyrics of Diamonds from Sierra Leone are too far away from the concept, I can&#180;t use the original song Listen and the original versions of the other songs are not my cup of tea, I couldn't say no to this song. After all this is also the concept of Dj Regie

Now don't take the song too seriuosly, you seem like you want to kill me just for a single song  :sad:

сообщение оставил NIGHT , 30 октября 2011, 00:42
Не совсем понял, зачем туда напихали k-on... он как-то отдельно смотрится.
Разок посмотреть можно.

сообщение оставил Squalleh , 30 октября 2011, 02:21
Цитата (AnimeFanaticBoy @ 29 октября 2011, 23:28)
Now don't take the song too seriuosly

How can I NOT take the whole thing seriously, when the genre of the video is Character Profile, Story and Romance? And especially since we're talking about ruining THE XX's < intro > to the very core and using it as a bloody rap beat /:
Цитата (AnimeFanaticBoy @ 29 октября 2011, 23:28)
you seem like you want to kill me just for a single song

I don't wan't to kill you for the song, because it is not your creation. I'm raging about the entire m/v and the whole misconception that surrounds the video. It just doesn't fit itself on so many levels. Moreover, judging by your skills, you can create something really good and it hurts me to see that you came up with this.

сообщение оставил RatKiller , 30 октября 2011, 03:26
It was kinda OK, but like it was said before - K-on chars don't blend in. And it's me telling you this, the guy who never watched K-on.

AnimeFanaticBoy, speak your mind =)

сообщение оставил AnimeFanaticBoy , 30 октября 2011, 03:50
Squall© But like I said before, This is Dj Regie work but I couldn't betray him saying him: Man you suck for mixing all these things specially the XX intro, and then when he already made the concept of this song for a romance video. I just had to follow orders. Yes I wanted to make something for my own but we had a deal so I was going to break it since I accepted all the conditions.

Anyway, If you have watched My Story: I'm not alone, (http://akross.ru/index.cgi?act=video;id=2585) you will obviously realize what my akross entry idea was going to be about. I'm currently making the second part of the video with a different song, but with the fact that I'm using just 1 episode of a single anime. I'm searching for betatesters so if you want a chance just hit me up.

About this:

Цитата
judging by your skills, you can create something really good and it hurts me to see that you came up with this.


If I want to believe that this is true and you don't said this to make me feel better, then these are the most beautiful words I've ever read from a Russian editor like you. I mean it  :cool:

Btw man, Dj Regie made a solo version to this song called The Listen Intro. It's up to you if you want me to put a link to the song, which it's not rap and it has a few modified things

Now,

RatKiller Ok man, since you have already posted a related topic to this I want you to focus in the minute 1:20
Watch the hands of Yui, did you notice those lines? It's like if it were interlaced but it's not (then all the K-on! footage  should look like that but not)

Do you have any idea why this happened? before masking her hands were ok, but once I finished the mask, those lines appeared in scene. If you want a pic of the footage before and after if you didn't understand me, just mention it



сообщение оставил VovanKoperativ , 30 октября 2011, 04:05
Не вкурил ни м\в, ни вставку К-он-а; техника посредственная и скучная, в целом для меня безлико.
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сообщение оставил RatKiller , 30 октября 2011, 04:13
AnimeFanaticBoy, if we're thinking the same - it's banding. This can clearly be seen on encoded gradients due to algorithm used. But i could use some pics though to be more sure where it comes from.
сообщение оставил AnimeFanaticBoy , 30 октября 2011, 05:50
RatKiller Hmm, it's possible. But it's odd: I made several masks as you could see into the video but none of them got the bands only that moment. Ok, give me a minute and I bring the pics, before and after.

I'm taking that artifact seriously cause I don't want any of my videos with that again


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сообщение оставил RatKiller , 30 октября 2011, 06:00
AnimeFanaticBoy, you can clearly see that this problem is present in the source material as well. Though not too obvious. You made it visible with your color correction. Possible soulution for this type of stuff - dither the area with some blur and then apply little grain to the whole image. And don't color correct that heavily such areas. And boy, there's a ton of points on each mask.
Another solution - to make smooth gradient of needed color and then put it over original image.

сообщение оставил AnimeFanaticBoy , 30 октября 2011, 06:14
RatKiller Oh... that was the reason

And yeah, I have to learn to mask with less and less points, did you imagine that it took me like 29 mnutes just to move one single keyframe?

Anyway thanks for your help. Hoping to release 2 videos into the Con

сообщение оставил RatKiller , 30 октября 2011, 06:33
AnimeFanaticBoy, for example for the lower part of the right palm(including thumb) you could use just 6-8 points instead of 22. Just use point handles to make smooth curves following the shape of the hand. It will be more natural and easier. And don't try to save every little detail, you just need the shape to look nice and smooth. Don't forget to feather it out a bit to make it blend in more.
сообщение оставил AnimeFanaticBoy , 30 октября 2011, 06:38
Now that you mentioned it:

What's your recommendation for the feather? I always adjust it like 2 or 3, but I avoided playing with it this time. Should I also consider the BGs of the video in case I got problems again with the masks?

сообщение оставил RatKiller , 30 октября 2011, 06:48
AnimeFanaticBoy, adjustment of BG to FG colors or vice versa is up to artistic vision to achieve the best looks. Yeah, 2-3 pixels are usually ok, depending on resolution of the source. You can play with feathering in out or both.
сообщение оставил AnimeFanaticBoy , 30 октября 2011, 07:23
RatKiller Thanks for your time my friend. I don't have excuse now for the masking technique in future videos  :wink:
сообщение оставил Kvant , 30 октября 2011, 10:40
Просто, но мило. В целом оставило приятное впечатление... 6 из 10
Удачи  :wink:

сообщение оставил MIBIHA , 30 октября 2011, 12:05
Странно обычно я не любитель репичка, но тут наверно сыграл голосочек солистки) K-On очень уж разниться в рисовке с первым аниме, попытка хорошая, но реализации бы побольше.
сообщение оставил (= Stray Soul =) , 30 октября 2011, 12:20
В общем понравилось. Музыка тошнотворных рефлексов не вызвала (видимо, утро, не проснулся еще). В общем довольно ровненько получилось, на 7 тянет
сообщение оставил Death_Kn1ght , 30 октября 2011, 16:59
Технически не плохо, но юзать миксованную песню из К-ОН'а под видеоряд с ним же - не есть вери хорошо =\
сообщение оставил AnimeFanaticBoy , 30 октября 2011, 17:07
Dj Regie is considering making a second one with No Thank You, since you seem to "love" this mix  :lol:

But now that I find interesting your comment Death_Kn1ght:

This is not only my concept, the whole video is borned to the concept of Dj Regie, with some modifications from me. Since he already said that K-On was a must-appearing anime in the video, I guess I should share with the community the idea Dj Regie had about this amv originally:



Problem was the original intention was that he really wanted to see a Vs between Kanye West and Mio, which was something "impossible" for me

сообщение оставил KenjiKyou , 30 октября 2011, 18:51
AnimeFanaticBoy
Just don't make a video for that mix. I want to see your own work (you choose a song, you make a concept and so on).

сообщение оставил AnimeFanaticBoy , 30 октября 2011, 19:58
KenjiKyou perhaps you want to see what's the video I was planning to enter once I finished it
сообщение оставил HiDeaki , 01 ноября 2011, 19:58
Музыка ужас.
А старания видны.

сообщение оставил AnimeFanaticBoy , 02 декабря 2011, 06:49
HiDeaki thanks for the comment. I forgot about my own thread  :sad:
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